Comments on: Linux Mint 6 Felicia Review : It Must Be Christmas http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247 Linux and Tech Stuff Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:39:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Neil http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-5466 Neil Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:16:38 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-5466 @BlueKnight - I appreciate what you are saying, but despite your claims you are clearly dissing Mint because it is user friendly. You actually say "So for packages management they are created a new toy just for “the convenience of the users”" as if that's a bad thing! What on earth is an OS for if it isn't for users? And why is it deemed a bad thing to make it easier to use? I've been using Ubuntu for a while now and while I didn't struggle to install the MP3 support I understand completely that people would prefer it to be there already (let's face it no-one uses Ogg Vorbis). Also, when I setup a Samba share I right-clicked on the folder to share it and all seemed fine. But it didn't work - I had manually configure the smb.conf flie to get it working. Why should I need to do that? Why can't I just right-click to share? Can you seriously tell me that it is easier or better to have to alter configuration files to make basic things work? I also want my PC to shutdown on certain conditions. A shell script can be written to do this, and it's a really powerful thing. But writing scripts and editing cron is hardly a simple process. It's this kind of thing that Linux needs simple UI tools to perform so that people do not have to rely on script writing and file editing. After all, you are ignoring the fact that while file editing is very powerful it is also very dangerous. You can easily break things, which wouldn't be possible with a decent UI interface on top. I'm sure Linux will run faster if it's slimmed down and controlled by a knowledgeable user from the command line but to assume that a GUI doesn't make things better and easier is just crazy. After all, Windows was the success it was because it made everyone's life easier. Linux has plenty of distros, as you say, and if it is ever to take off then distros like Mint are essential. Though I do agree that the number of them needs to be slimmed down considerably - too much choice can be a bad thing. Sorry to waffle but I just find the whole thing where geeks slag off an OS for being easy to use a complete joke. @BlueKnight - I appreciate what you are saying, but despite your claims you are clearly dissing Mint because it is user friendly. You actually say “So for packages management they are created a new toy just for “the convenience of the users”” as if that’s a bad thing! What on earth is an OS for if it isn’t for users? And why is it deemed a bad thing to make it easier to use?

I’ve been using Ubuntu for a while now and while I didn’t struggle to install the MP3 support I understand completely that people would prefer it to be there already (let’s face it no-one uses Ogg Vorbis). Also, when I setup a Samba share I right-clicked on the folder to share it and all seemed fine. But it didn’t work - I had manually configure the smb.conf flie to get it working. Why should I need to do that? Why can’t I just right-click to share? Can you seriously tell me that it is easier or better to have to alter configuration files to make basic things work?

I also want my PC to shutdown on certain conditions. A shell script can be written to do this, and it’s a really powerful thing. But writing scripts and editing cron is hardly a simple process. It’s this kind of thing that Linux needs simple UI tools to perform so that people do not have to rely on script writing and file editing.

After all, you are ignoring the fact that while file editing is very powerful it is also very dangerous. You can easily break things, which wouldn’t be possible with a decent UI interface on top.

I’m sure Linux will run faster if it’s slimmed down and controlled by a knowledgeable user from the command line but to assume that a GUI doesn’t make things better and easier is just crazy. After all, Windows was the success it was because it made everyone’s life easier.

Linux has plenty of distros, as you say, and if it is ever to take off then distros like Mint are essential. Though I do agree that the number of them needs to be slimmed down considerably - too much choice can be a bad thing.

Sorry to waffle but I just find the whole thing where geeks slag off an OS for being easy to use a complete joke.

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By: Bevin http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4758 Bevin Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:38:52 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4758 Linux users who are contemptuous of Mint seem to labor under a peculiar delusion. They seem to think that because user friendly distros such as Mint offend their sensibilities, that they have the right to urge their elimination. Linux Mint was not subsidized using their tax dollars. It was created by volunteers, and is offered free to anyone who wants it. Anyone who doesn't want it, doesn't have to use it, or more importantly, pay for it. Don't like it? Don't use it! Don't like it? Don't donate any money to it!! Can Mint bashers wrap them minds around that concept? Or is the idea of diversity and freedom too complex for these self-styled software geniuses to grasp? Linux users who are contemptuous of Mint seem to labor under a peculiar delusion. They seem to think that because user friendly distros such as Mint offend their sensibilities, that they have the right to urge their elimination.

Linux Mint was not subsidized using their tax dollars. It was created by volunteers, and is offered free to anyone who wants it.

Anyone who doesn’t want it, doesn’t have to use it, or more importantly, pay for it.

Don’t like it? Don’t use it! Don’t like it? Don’t donate any money to it!!

Can Mint bashers wrap them minds around that concept? Or is the idea of diversity and freedom too complex for these self-styled software geniuses to grasp?

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By: Tom http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4636 Tom Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:04:29 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4636 I have tried several distributions of linux over the last few years.. first one I believe was Redhat4something. I think the changes and development of Linux has been better and faster than MS. So - back to my linux - testing. I have tried a lot.. I have searched a lot - to find a good alternative to MS. It has been a hard time, with a lot of live-cd and install-cd all over the place in periods. :) I have now LinuxMint installed in my PC. and for the first time EVER, MS Windows is not my favourite. I normally used to boot WinXP or Win2k to do my normal tasks, and booted linux to please my search-spirit. Today, after using Linux Mint for about 2 months or so, I know that I'm in love.. I think I have booted XP maybe 10 times at the same period, and I use my computer a lot - several times pr day. My only reason for booting XP is to use Corel Draw, have not found something similar for Linux yet. I use skype - available linux version, and what was a problem before - MSN messenger is now available as aMSN, works like a walk in the park.! Tom I have tried several distributions of linux over the last few years.. first one I believe was Redhat4something.

I think the changes and development of Linux has been better and faster than MS.

So - back to my linux - testing. I have tried a lot.. I have searched a lot - to find a good alternative to MS. It has been a hard time, with a lot of live-cd and install-cd all over the place in periods. :)

I have now LinuxMint installed in my PC. and for the first time EVER, MS Windows is not my favourite. I normally used to boot WinXP or Win2k to do my normal tasks, and booted linux to please my search-spirit. Today, after using Linux Mint for about 2 months or so, I know that I’m in love..

I think I have booted XP maybe 10 times at the same period, and I use my computer a lot - several times pr day. My only reason for booting XP is to use Corel Draw, have not found something similar for Linux yet. I use skype - available linux version, and what was a problem before - MSN messenger is now available as aMSN, works like a walk in the park.!

Tom

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By: Joe http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4627 Joe Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:33:09 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4627 Hello, I would like to say.... Windows Vista is the worst OS I have ever used and after downloading "Windows Se7en" beta, that is (Vista Light) and it sucks too. So heres to the new Mint and Micrap$oft can burn in Hell with all the other (FAT BLOATED) Corporations!! Burn in the lake of fire you Jews!!!..... no, I love jews, just not the rich ones. And for all you Geeks that would like to see users turn from they Evil Micro$oft ways, stop crying about Linux Os being like windows.... Its whats going to get users to switch! Forgive my spelling and stop ripping on those who dont want to spend 3 days on an instal configing all those damn codecs just to get things to work..... Get a Girl friend and unplug for a bit.....damn Hello, I would like to say…. Windows Vista is the worst OS I have ever used and after downloading “Windows Se7en” beta, that is (Vista Light) and it sucks too. So heres to the new Mint and Micrap$oft can burn in Hell with all the other (FAT BLOATED) Corporations!! Burn in the lake of fire you Jews!!!….. no, I love jews, just not the rich ones. And for all you Geeks that would like to see users turn from they Evil Micro$oft ways, stop crying about Linux Os being like windows…. Its whats going to get users to switch! Forgive my spelling and stop ripping on those who dont want to spend 3 days on an instal configing all those damn codecs just to get things to work….. Get a Girl friend and unplug for a bit…..damn

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By: Nick http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4575 Nick Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:54:30 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4575 I think Mint is the way forward. Windows became big by making/stealing user freidnly features and including them in all one place. Mint making their own applications will set them apart - Mint, Suse and Mandriva seem to be the only distros that are not bit-parts of applications and a linux core slapped together. The 3 mentioned distros have taken the time to develop something that makes their distro user friendly and set themselves apart. I think Mint is the way forward. Windows became big by making/stealing user freidnly features and including them in all one place. Mint making their own applications will set them apart - Mint, Suse and Mandriva seem to be the only distros that are not bit-parts of applications and a linux core slapped together. The 3 mentioned distros have taken the time to develop something that makes their distro user friendly and set themselves apart.

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By: campamax http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4321 campamax Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:26:45 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4321 Let's try to express my point of view. I am a Linux noob, but I have spents more than a year, from time to time, trying live distros (not having a PC of my own to play with) to learn something about Linux. This way, having distros with codecs not preconfigured was an annoyance. As soon as I tried Mint 4, I decided I liked it a lot: I just felt comfortable with it, whatever that can mean. As soon as I got a PC to play with, I installed Mint 5, and my 'comfortable' sensation remained: I definitely am among those who like Gnome and like the MintMenu. Initially some utilities (mainly MintInstall) appeared very useful, then gaining some more confidence with the environment (a reinstall after having made something horrible to the system, and then the install of Mint 6) I realized I could easily live without it and just use Synaptic. At last, it remains the distro I prefer since it needs no effort to get the work environment as I feel comfortable with. Then I got a Samsung NC10 netbook, and the *buntu distros still show some annoying flaws on them, so I tried SuSE - being known as the distro which best recognize the NC10 hardware. Well, now - after some days and effort - my netbook start looking close to what I need to use, but with much more effort than with Mint. This is obviously not necessarily negative (I probably learned somethin more this way), but while I had and have the intention to make my Linux box work mostly for personal pleasure (I like Linux and want to use it for my personal activities the most I can), this is exactly what makes Windows being used by >90% of the PC users. Most of them ar not by far geeks, and are not interested in how a PC work: they want it to work, to use them for they needs. So, what can the Linux community offer them? Distrowatch counts hundreds (!) of active distributions, and with them Linux is used on very few percentage points of the overall PCs all over the world. These >90% of the PC users don't care a heck whether something is free or not, they want it to work, and I think they are right! And here all the zealots will cover me with shit, I know, but this is what I think: Linux won't get to the masses because of: - poor hardware support (even this is improving somewhat) - zealots who think that someone should use something free, even if it is crap (that fortunately is NOT what most often free software is!), instead of something working well but related to the Big Evil Microsoft. If we want to keep Linux as a toy for hobyists, this is the way. But if we really want to make Linux a REAL alternative to Windows, distros like Mint are what we need. (Thanks Clem!) My 5 cents. ___ MaX P.S. IMHO, multiple desktop IS a must have feature, Compiz is just a (mostly useless) toy for me. I used it because I like some not eccessive eye candy (cube, woobbling windows, expose, ...), but on the NC10 I have to disable it because of some conflicts: I miss it, but I can perfectly live without, with my multiple desktops still alive. Let’s try to express my point of view.
I am a Linux noob, but I have spents more than a year, from time to time, trying live distros (not having a PC of my own to play with) to learn something about Linux. This way, having distros with codecs not preconfigured was an annoyance. As soon as I tried Mint 4, I decided I liked it a lot: I just felt comfortable with it, whatever that can mean.
As soon as I got a PC to play with, I installed Mint 5, and my ‘comfortable’ sensation remained: I definitely am among those who like Gnome and like the MintMenu. Initially some utilities (mainly MintInstall) appeared very useful, then gaining some more confidence with the environment (a reinstall after having made something horrible to the system, and then the install of Mint 6) I realized I could easily live without it and just use Synaptic.
At last, it remains the distro I prefer since it needs no effort to get the work environment as I feel comfortable with.

Then I got a Samsung NC10 netbook, and the *buntu distros still show some annoying flaws on them, so I tried SuSE - being known as the distro which best recognize the NC10 hardware. Well, now - after some days and effort - my netbook start looking close to what I need to use, but with much more effort than with Mint. This is obviously not necessarily negative (I probably learned somethin more this way), but while I had and have the intention to make my Linux box work mostly for personal pleasure (I like Linux and want to use it for my personal activities the most I can), this is exactly what makes Windows being used by >90% of the PC users. Most of them ar not by far geeks, and are not interested in how a PC work: they want it to work, to use them for they needs. So, what can the Linux community offer them? Distrowatch counts hundreds (!) of active distributions, and with them Linux is used on very few percentage points of the overall PCs all over the world. These >90% of the PC users don’t care a heck whether something is free or not, they want it to work, and I think they are right! And here all the zealots will cover me with shit, I know, but this is what I think: Linux won’t get to the masses because of:
- poor hardware support (even this is improving somewhat)
- zealots who think that someone should use something free, even if it is crap (that fortunately is NOT what most often free software is!), instead of something working well but related to the Big Evil Microsoft.

If we want to keep Linux as a toy for hobyists, this is the way. But if we really want to make Linux a REAL alternative to Windows, distros like Mint are what we need. (Thanks Clem!)

My 5 cents.
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MaX

P.S.
IMHO, multiple desktop IS a must have feature, Compiz is just a (mostly useless) toy for me. I used it because I like some not eccessive eye candy (cube, woobbling windows, expose, …), but on the NC10 I have to disable it because of some conflicts: I miss it, but I can perfectly live without, with my multiple desktops still alive.

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By: gazza http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4199 gazza Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:00:00 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4199 Well done to Linux Mint for making this work out of the box for newbies, everything works great for me, i am pretty good at windows having done a techie exam...but i struggled with Linux dristos with their package mangers and command lines, getting wireless to work and so on.... As a newbie to Linux (2weeks) i don't want to f**K about with codecs, wireless..looking for guides installing just about everything ......i just want the operating system to work which why I've choosen Linux mint over Ubuntu, Pclinuxos, Open SUSE, Federo, puppy Linux, kubuntu. freespire which I've played with over the last 14 days... For me it is not about it being free,but a middle finger up tp Big Coperations like Microsoft trying to control the Markets and their greedy spin offs i can download pirated software for free and have for years. Linux Mint in my opinion should be the Linux operating system Choice for Microsoft users wanting to make the switch without being a Linux GEEK! Well done to Linux Mint for making this work out of the box for newbies, everything works great for me, i am pretty good at windows having done a techie exam…but i struggled with Linux dristos with their package mangers and command lines, getting wireless to work and so on….

As a newbie to Linux (2weeks) i don’t want to f**K about with codecs, wireless..looking for guides installing just about everything ……i just want the operating system to work which why I’ve choosen Linux mint over Ubuntu, Pclinuxos, Open SUSE, Federo, puppy Linux, kubuntu. freespire which I’ve played with over the last 14 days…

For me it is not about it being free,but a middle finger up tp Big Coperations like Microsoft trying to control the Markets and their greedy spin offs i can download pirated software for free and have for years.

Linux Mint in my opinion should be the Linux operating system Choice for Microsoft users wanting to make the switch without being a Linux GEEK!

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By: dabby http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4192 dabby Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:47:44 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4192 i personally don’t need a distro to hold my hand or have codecs preinstalled. all that preconfigured stuff is just bloat. why not just cut out the middle man and just use debian. plus, it’s faster than mint. it is strictly a noob distro as far as i’m concerned.. i personally don’t need a distro to hold my hand or have codecs preinstalled. all that preconfigured stuff is just bloat. why not just cut out the middle man and just use debian. plus, it’s faster than mint. it is strictly a noob distro as far as i’m concerned..

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By: galactus http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4191 galactus Sun, 11 Jan 2009 09:40:12 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4191 I have used every version of DOS, Windows and many Linux distros. I think Linux Mint is pretty much flawless. If you don't, who gives a shit? JUST DON'T USE IT! It is really that simple BK and the rest of you fuckwads. I guess the people that invented pencils and paper would have been noobs to you and should have stuck with stone tablets. Give it a rest. I have used every version of DOS, Windows and many Linux distros. I think Linux Mint is pretty much flawless. If you don’t, who gives a shit? JUST DON’T USE IT! It is really that simple BK and the rest of you fuckwads. I guess the people that invented pencils and paper would have been noobs to you and should have stuck with stone tablets. Give it a rest.

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By: max http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4030 max Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:40:15 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-4030 Soon I'll be getting a new computer, which will have XP and Mint installed in dual partitions. I consider my computer to be an appliance, like spanners, to do work with. I don't care about the molecular costruction of the spanners, they only have to be intuitive to use. The same with my computer, I want it to work fully as easily and as soon as possible, out of the box. There are millions like me. I want Linux to be a Windows clone, I want to be free of Microsoft. I have been watching Linux for years, and I will use Mint as my first Linux OS. Soon I’ll be getting a new computer, which will have XP and Mint installed in dual partitions. I consider my computer to be an appliance, like spanners, to do work with.
I don’t care about the molecular costruction of the spanners, they only have to be intuitive to use. The same with my computer, I want it to work fully as easily and as soon as possible, out of the box.

There are millions like me.

I want Linux to be a Windows clone, I want to be free of Microsoft.

I have been watching Linux for years, and I will use Mint as my first Linux OS.

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By: DIE http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3980 DIE Mon, 05 Jan 2009 21:40:16 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3980 great distro, im impressed with it. i'm looking forward for any improvement on it! great distro, im impressed with it. i’m looking forward for any improvement on it!

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By: Blue Knight http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3908 Blue Knight Sat, 03 Jan 2009 21:17:32 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3908 @Phil and other like There is no "hostility shown toward Mint", at least not by me. Read again the end of my post: "I don't say that Mint is a bad distro, at the contrary". You see? NOT say, AT THE CONTRARY! I think it's correct English so, if you don't understand I can't nothing for you! This is not because me or others doing some criticism that we are against Mint! But this behavior is unfortunately often seen among the Ubuntu(/Mint) fanboys (and also unfortunately sometimes elsewhere in the Open Source, e.g. Arch, FreeBSD...), isn't it, Anonymous? :-P (and make at least showed courage when you want to try 'attacking' someone the next time... put a name) So, Mint is NOT a bad distro, it is perhaps "a better Ubuntu", and the Mint Tools are a good idea even if some are/can be useless, but there are also some stuff and some direction followed by Mint which I don't like and I don't agree with them. @ Bevin > "Ironically, their arrongant mindset is the antithesis of the live and let live open Source philosophy." I'm sorry but it's exactly the opposite. Like I say above, it's rather your inability to accept criticism... And "live and let live"? Hmm... P.S.= David, your review is good, detailled, Mint Tools are well explained etc Good work man! @Phil and other like

There is no “hostility shown toward Mint”, at least not by me. Read again the end of my post: “I don’t say that Mint is a bad distro, at the contrary”. You see? NOT say, AT THE CONTRARY! I think it’s correct English so, if you don’t understand I can’t nothing for you!

This is not because me or others doing some criticism that we are against Mint! But this behavior is unfortunately often seen among the Ubuntu(/Mint) fanboys (and also unfortunately sometimes elsewhere in the Open Source, e.g. Arch, FreeBSD…), isn’t it, Anonymous? :-P (and make at least showed courage when you want to try ‘attacking’ someone the next time… put a name)

So, Mint is NOT a bad distro, it is perhaps “a better Ubuntu”, and the Mint Tools are a good idea even if some are/can be useless, but there are also some stuff and some direction followed by Mint which I don’t like and I don’t agree with them.

@ Bevin

> “Ironically, their arrongant mindset is the antithesis of the live and let live open Source philosophy.”

I’m sorry but it’s exactly the opposite. Like I say above, it’s rather your inability to accept criticism… And “live and let live”? Hmm…

P.S.= David, your review is good, detailled, Mint Tools are well explained etc Good work man!

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By: Phil http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3885 Phil Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:16:52 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3885 I really don't understand some of the hostility shown toward Mint. I've been using it for a while now, having moved over from Debian. I'm perfectly capable of playing around with config files and command line applications, but fun though it is, I find it more useful to use my computer to DO things. Some may call it bloat, others will view it as one less thing to fiddle with, enabling them to do something more productive. You can always use the Fluxbox community edition if you want a config file fix. I certainly favour Mint over Ubuntu these days, and I think they should be applauded, as it's a very nicely polished distro with some nice user friendly features. I really don’t understand some of the hostility shown toward Mint. I’ve been using it for a while now, having moved over from Debian. I’m perfectly capable of playing around with config files and command line applications, but fun though it is, I find it more useful to use my computer to DO things. Some may call it bloat, others will view it as one less thing to fiddle with, enabling them to do something more productive. You can always use the Fluxbox community edition if you want a config file fix. I certainly favour Mint over Ubuntu these days, and I think they should be applauded, as it’s a very nicely polished distro with some nice user friendly features.

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By: dolphin http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3828 dolphin Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:44:41 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3828 Thanks for a great review! I don't think that anyone is trying to kill Linux, quite on the contrary, the more options there are, the more people use it, the more people contribute to the development, the better it gets... it makes sense to me. Thanks for a great review! I don’t think that anyone is trying to kill Linux, quite on the contrary, the more options there are, the more people use it, the more people contribute to the development, the better it gets… it makes sense to me.

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By: luis http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3817 luis Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:00:34 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3817 I might change for the look kind of sexy for a Linux distro. I might change for the look kind of sexy for a Linux distro.

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By: Bevin http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3801 Bevin Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:11:06 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3801 Rather than just quietly use whatever user hostile Linux distro they prefer, some Linux snobs insist on visiting Linux Mint sites and putting down both Linux Mint and Linux Mint users. You really have to wonder why. No one's holding a gun to their heads. No one's forcing them to use Linux Mint. As they themselves know full well, there are scores of different distros to choose from. If they enjoy spending weeks and months configuring their distro using line commands, nobody's stopping them. Ironically, their arrogant mindset is the antithesis of the live and let live Open Source philosophy. Rather than just quietly use whatever user hostile Linux distro they prefer, some Linux snobs insist on visiting Linux Mint sites and putting down both Linux Mint and Linux Mint users.

You really have to wonder why.

No one’s holding a gun to their heads. No one’s forcing them to use Linux Mint. As they themselves know full well, there are scores of different distros to choose from. If they enjoy spending weeks and months configuring their distro using line commands, nobody’s stopping them.

Ironically, their arrogant mindset is the antithesis of the live and let live Open Source philosophy.

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By: David http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3776 David Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:18:18 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3776 @Jim March Thanks Jim. I will give the CCSM crash handler a try. Even though Compiz has not crashed on me in a long time it is good to have a backup just in case. @Jim March

Thanks Jim. I will give the CCSM crash handler a try. Even though Compiz has not crashed on me in a long time it is good to have a backup just in case.

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By: Minet http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3713 Minet Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:44:02 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3713 Great review David. Linux Mint is doing great job to brings easy and pleasant OS to the desktops! Compiz -btw is the most cool application in Linux OS putting MS OS in the shame in his boring computing! Great review David.
Linux Mint is doing great job to brings easy and pleasant OS to the desktops!
Compiz -btw is the most cool application in Linux OS putting MS OS in the shame in his boring computing!

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By: wolfen69 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3690 wolfen69 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 05:57:05 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3690 i personally don't need a distro to hold my hand or have codecs preinstalled. all that preconfigured stuff is just bloat. why not just cut out the middle man and just use debian. plus, it's faster than mint. it is strictly a noob distro as far as i'm concerned. i personally don’t need a distro to hold my hand or have codecs preinstalled. all that preconfigured stuff is just bloat. why not just cut out the middle man and just use debian. plus, it’s faster than mint. it is strictly a noob distro as far as i’m concerned.

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By: Jim March http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3689 Jim March Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:15:45 +0000 http://www.penguinway.net/?p=247#comment-3689 One compiz tip: make sure you load the full compiz configuration manager ("compizconfig-settings-manager"), go in and enable the crash handler. Set it to do "metacity --replace" (without quotes) in case Compiz pukes and dies. This doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to in Ubuntu, it's been very stable since 7.7, but I tried Fedora 10 64bit recently and this saved my bacon a lot. One compiz tip: make sure you load the full compiz configuration manager (”compizconfig-settings-manager”), go in and enable the crash handler. Set it to do “metacity –replace” (without quotes) in case Compiz pukes and dies. This doesn’t happen nearly as often as it used to in Ubuntu, it’s been very stable since 7.7, but I tried Fedora 10 64bit recently and this saved my bacon a lot.

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